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#1 Gamble

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 01:46 PM

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About 2 weeks ago I popped Halo 2 into my 360 and started playing some Big Team Battle. The very first game I played in I got modded, a.k.a. cheated on, by a guy whom we will refer to as 'Schmuck5000'. After the game was over I asked him if he would agree to do an interview for Aeropause. At first he thought it was just a joke but I eventually got him to message me his e-mail. I then sent him an e-mail interview to fill out. What is written below is completely unedited from what I received from Schmuck5000. Please excuse any spelling or grammar errors. I thought it was important to show the intelligence of cheaters. I am very surprised that he e-mailed me back the answers. Some of the questions were fairly harsh.

Aeropause: How old are you and where are you from?

Schmuck5000: I am 24 years old and I live in central Texas.

Aeropause: Besides Halo 2 are there any other games at which you cheat?

Schmuck5000: I play BF2 and some Counter Strike. I cheat at both but it’s hard to get away with in Counter Strike. People who play CS are such babies about that stuff. The other players are just jealous p***ys who wish they had the ability to cheat.

Aeropause: Do you have a girlfriend?

Schmuck5000: What kind of freaking question is that for this kind of interview? How does me having a girlfriend relate to cheating? (AP: We will take that as a NO!)

Aeropause: What made you decide to mod your Xbox to gain an unfair advantage in games like Halo 2?

Schmuck5000: Modding is not an unfair advantage. There is just as much chance that there will be a modder on the other team. I am there to even things out. Halo 2 is beginning to get old, us modders are just making it more funner.

Aeropause: Do you get some kind of good feeling when a game is over and everyone is the room is calling you every cuss word known to man?

Schmuck5000: I tend to ignore those people, they bitch and morn about how I cheated but they could have modded their box just like mine. If you want to start complaining to me them don’t bother I have better things to do.

Aeropause: How many times have you been banned or suspended from gaming servers?

Schmuck5000: Wow, I have been kicked of XBL at least 10 times, I have to be careful now because there are no more 2 month cards floating around. The people at Bungie are the worst. How can they complain about people like me. They should have built a anti-cheating engine in the game to prevent it. Its not my fault that modders cheat.

Aeropause: Cheaters are mainly made up of people who lack the dexterity to play the game honestly. Did your inability to play the games well in the first place lead you to begin cheating?

Schmuck5000: I can play each and every game I cheat at very well. I will own anyone on the battlefield even without a mod, Believe It ! - (AP: Is that a Naruto reference?)

Aeropause: The rise of online gaming has had its share of hurdles and one of the greatest hurdles is getting rid of cheaters such as yourself. What advice would you give game designers to help discourage cheaters?

Schmuck5000: Give Up! There is no way to stop us. Everyone wants to cheat and we will always find a way to do it. Anyone reading this is simply jealous of the fact that I have enough nuts to cheat and play the game the way I want to.

Aeropause: Everyone online including myself see you as the scum of online gaming. How do you respond to that?

Schmuck5000: Like I give a flying F**k what other gamers think about me. As long as there are games there will be cheaters, why should I stop if no one else does, as far as I see it I am evening out the playing field!

#2 UHYVE

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 01:59 PM

You know what the worst thing is about people like that, they seem to think that it takes some sort of skill to cheat, when in actuality, they've never created a mod/exploit on their own. They're like the new script kiddies...

Edited by UHYVE, 18 September 2006 - 01:59 PM.


#3 SharpeWolfe

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 02:05 PM

haha, I suppose studying cheaters would make for an interesting psychological case study...if just for the sheer humor of their stupidity...
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#4 Blaze

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 02:10 PM

They should have built a anti-cheating engine in the game to prevent it.

There is no way to stop us.

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You can't prevent the unstoppable, idot.

#5 SCHULTZ

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 07:14 AM

That the guy has been banned 10 times shows the anticheating measures are working. They keep getting away with it because of the 2 month free cards. How to discourage cheating: XBL comes with a little black box that connects to your 360. When you are detected cheating the box works its magic. You see, before you are allowed to play online, you must put your balls into the box. The "magic" it works, could be razor blades, electric shock, welding torch, fire ants, whatever.

#6 urk

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 07:27 AM

Every time I lose, I'm pretty sure I've been standby'd. I get standby'd a lot.

#7 Drew

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 12:32 PM

Every time I lose, I'm pretty sure I've been standby'd. I get standby'd a lot.

Split-screen lag?

Also, this guy is a fucking douche.

#8 DualX

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 01:02 PM

Halo 2 is beginning to get old, us modders are just making it more funner.

I lol'd.

#9 urk

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 06:52 AM

Split-screen lag?

Also, this guy is a fucking douche.


What sucks is they he's a douche and he gets away with it. Cheating is a chronic issue with Halo 2. Yeah, they have that Banhammer, but methinks they need something a little more clinical, like a Bansniper to target individuals and drop them out of their out of map perches.

I remember when cheating was super prominent in the early days. I played with a friend who introduced me to a guy "who was really good." Turns out he was cheating. Not only doing all the modem tricks, ladders, bridging, all that, but he was also modding. Super speed, rocket ammo in his BR, kicking players. Guy was "really good" at cheating fo sho. Anyway, I PM'd Bungie directly and the guy kept playing for about a year with no penalty.

Looks like they have a few more tools this time around, both from a backend management angle and for players to mark and avoid cheaters. I really like the idea of a cesspool for all of the shitty scumbag cheaters. Hope it works as advertised. I'm sure Bungie does too.

And yeah, lag total. All my deaths are attributed to either lag or cheating. It seems worse for LAN play. I can really sympathize with Frankie.

This was kind of a long post, but I was using the bathroom, so I needed something to do.

#10 MCPO RaZ

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 08:41 AM

What really scares me is that these types of mentalities are going to be raising children someday.

#11 mattacus

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 09:00 AM

What really scares me is that these types of mentalities are going to be raising children someday.


Probably not. Please refer to the girlfriend question above.

#12 MCPO RaZ

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 09:42 AM

Probably not. Please refer to the girlfriend question above.


Ya, good point.



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