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#41 Cerious

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 05:52 AM

Same here.


I could be nit picking too much, I guess. Really, I am nit picking since I'm only buying the LE. I just checked out the packaging for the LE on Amazon.com. Pretty nice trifold design. I'm porbably way, late but it was the first time that I've seen the case opened.

#42 GhaleonEB

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 06:04 AM

Meh.

I actually liked the first cover better. IMO, the Chief always looks better in action and the first cover had me saying, "damn! he's coming right at me!" Plus, the Ark and Atmospheric disturbance was in the background for a better cinematic effect. This cover really doesn't say "Action", well, with exception to the MA5C that he's holding.

I don't think it's supposed to. Bungie has said the tone of Halo 3 is much darker than the previous games, and the new artwork reflects that - the previous art did not. It's a little bit of counter programming, trying to establish a setting and tone, not action. I like the approach partly because it's just different.

But I really want to see the back of the box. :P

(I had no idea you're a member here.)

#43 Cerious

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 06:48 AM

I don't think it's supposed to. Bungie has said the tone of Halo 3 is much darker than the previous games, and the new artwork reflects that - the previous art did not. It's a little bit of counter programming, trying to establish a setting and tone, not action. I like the approach partly because it's just different.

But I really want to see the back of the box. :P

(I had no idea you're a member here.)


I lurk alot and defer to the experts here most of the time. I'm a die hard fan of the game but I'm just not very good at this game (or at least no where near as good as these guys), so I try to keep my mouth shut in most cases, listen and learn.

On Topic- Darker and Action are not antonyms. I mean, you should be able to show both together. Halo 3 is going to be as action packed and fast paced as the first two games, but the theme will be darker. What that means to me, is a lot of bad things are going to happen over the course of storyline, but I don't think that means the story will be slower in any way. This new cover art doesn't convey a darker theme to me, had they left Cortana's eyes peering over the Chief maybe I could see it. But really, is there much difference between this box art and the Halo 2 cover?

#44 NJ Shlice

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 06:51 AM

This cover art Screams Dark and Action

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#45 Cerious

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 07:17 AM

I could be nit picking too much, I guess. Really, I am nit picking since I'm only buying the LE. I just checked out the packaging for the CE on Amazon.com. Pretty nice trifold design. I'm porbably way, late but it was the first time that I've seen the case opened.



I meant Collectors Edition, I forgot that LE stands for Legendary not Limited.

#46 GhaleonEB

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 09:09 AM

I lurk alot and defer to the experts here most of the time. I'm a die hard fan of the game but I'm just not very good at this game (or at least no where near as good as these guys), so I try to keep my mouth shut in most cases, listen and learn.

On Topic- Darker and Action are not antonyms. I mean, you should be able to show both together. Halo 3 is going to be as action packed and fast paced as the first two games, but the theme will be darker. What that means to me, is a lot of bad things are going to happen over the course of storyline, but I don't think that means the story will be slower in any way. This new cover art doesn't convey a darker theme to me, had they left Cortana's eyes peering over the Chief maybe I could see it. But really, is there much difference between this box art and the Halo 2 cover?

I think there is. We have not seen any actual combat in the Halo 3 campaign - just a glipse of something happening between battles. I think what they want to convey is, this is the deep breath before the final plunge. It could be that I think of the Halo 2 cover as an action shot because it's referencing the E3 demo (setting, weapons, etc.) He's not even pointing his weapon in this one - it's one of those moments between battle. Almost thoughtful in pose.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 09:34 AM

I think there is. We have not seen any actual combat in the Halo 3 campaign - just a glipse of something happening between battles.


you're excluding the Brute Vidoc, right? or were those battles all just "concept?"

#48 Cerious

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 09:57 AM

I think what they want to convey is, this is the deep breath before the final plunge. It could be that I think of the Halo 2 cover as an action shot because it's referencing the E3 demo (setting, weapons, etc.) He's not even pointing his weapon in this one - it's one of those moments between battle. Almost thoughtful in pose.



I actually agree with that, this new cover does say "pause, take deep breath, continue" but I don't see anything that connotes darker or grittier.

My point about this cover being similar to H2 was just to show that this new cover doesn't convey a darker theme. The Chief is off centered in this new art, but the background shows torn rubble and destruction very similar to the chief standing atop the heap of rubble and destruction on the Halo 2 cover. In that cover he also isn't really moving. He's standing atop a hill of rubble taking pause, again very similar to the new box art.

#49 GhaleonEB

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 10:08 AM

I actually agree with that, this new cover does say "pause, take deep breath, continue" but I don't see anything that connotes darker or grittier.

My point about this cover being similar to H2 was just to show that this new cover doesn't convey a darker theme. The Chief is off centered in this new art, but the background shows torn rubble and destruction very similar to the chief standing atop the heap of rubble and destruction on the Halo 2 cover. In that cover he also isn't really moving. He's standing atop a hill of rubble taking pause, again very similar to the new box art.

The sun is going down on earth (literally and metaphorically), with wreckage in the background. Dark times ahead. That's always been my interpretation of the "Emotion" piece, anyways.

The similarity to the Halo 2 cover is interesting. In the story, on the surface, the start of the two games are similar. Earth is under Covenant attack, the Chief is there to defend it. The difference is, before Halo 2 came out we thought the Chief had a chance to fend off the Convent - it was a "let's kick some ass" pose, diving into the fight. At the start of Halo 3, Earth is "thoroughly conquered" according to Bungie. That fight has been lost.

Anyhoo, since we're comparing - just for context:

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Definately some similarity, but to me they strike a different tone. Halo 2 is diving into the fight; Halo 3 is after that fight has been lost.

Edited by GhaleonEB, 07 June 2007 - 10:10 AM.


#50 Cerious

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 10:16 AM

I'm beginning to see you point more clearly. For clarification I was comparing the Xbox H2 cover:


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The features are much more similar.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 10:21 AM

I agree with Ghaleon, in the H2 cover art, the sky looks like it's on fire, or reflecting the fire of combat, while in the H3 cover art, the sky is calm, and the Chief, while having a more defiant pose in the H2 cover art with a firmly planted front foot, now, as Ghaleon pointed out, looks almost thoughtful and is looking ahead into the coming darkness.

Edited by SharpeWolfe, 07 June 2007 - 10:23 AM.

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#52 Cerious

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 10:23 AM

Definately some similarity, but to me they strike a different tone. Halo 2 is diving into the fight; Halo 3 is after that fight has been lost.


I think the Halo 3 cover also shows a glimmer of hope. We know different, but to the casual gamer the art can be viewed in a different light. The sun setting, could also appear to be the sun rising; a new day dawns as the Chief strides to victory. Again, we know that the Chief is moving east and the sun is setting behind him, but for those poor folk who don't visit H3DA there could be a different viewpoint. Even with the sun setting, it hasn't set yet, there's still hope. That's what I grasp from the picture. Halo 2's original cover is actually darker, no sun, only flame and smoke. It would appear that the Earth has already been ravaged in that shot.

Interesting nonetheless.

Edited by Cerious, 07 June 2007 - 10:24 AM.


#53 GhaleonEB

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 11:08 AM

I think the Halo 3 cover also shows a glimmer of hope. We know different, but to the casual gamer the art can be viewed in a different light. The sun setting, could also appear to be the sun rising; a new day dawns as the Chief strides to victory. Again, we know that the Chief is moving east and the sun is setting behind him, but for those poor folk who don't visit H3DA there could be a different viewpoint. Even with the sun setting, it hasn't set yet, there's still hope. That's what I grasp from the picture. Halo 2's original cover is actually darker, no sun, only flame and smoke. It would appear that the Earth has already been ravaged in that shot.

Interesting nonetheless.

Yeah, I can see that. For all those reasons, it's one of my favorite pieces of Halo artwork, and I think part of my defense of it stems from that. I've always seen a disconnect in both style and quality between the Halo covers and the rest of the artwork Bungie has put out (such as the stuff we've seen from the Zune), so I'm delighted to see that same style represented here.

Side note: I'm fan of the film Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and half the time we're having these incredibly detailed discussions about Halo I feel like the protagonist of that film, staring into mashed potatoes, saying, "This means something." I think most people just see mashed potatoes, while I spend the hour long drive to work thinking about it. lol

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 03:53 PM

You guys say the Halo 2 cover was "You can still win.", well I guess it depends on which cover your looking at. The Limited Edition, didin't look so hopefull.

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#55 GhaleonEB

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 06:06 PM

You guys say the Halo 2 cover was "You can still win.", well I guess it depends on which cover your looking at. The Limited Edition, didin't look so hopefull.

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Well, at least the space tether is still standing in that one, as opposed to a pile of twisted rubble....

Edited by GhaleonEB, 07 June 2007 - 06:06 PM.


#56 LostprophetVII

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 06:06 PM

You never know what it could be, until September.



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