Actually NJ x Falk0r, I intended to say the opposite, although often what we intend to communicate and what we actually communicate are by no means identical. It seems to be that the Covenants strict devotion to detonate the Halos and their desire to incorporate or destroy those who do not follow their Covenant identify them more with the legalist/Pharasaical/Judaizers of the NT. The truth of the Halo story, in so far as I am aware, is that the rings do not lead to life, but death, just as Paul argues regarding following the Mosaic Law. It is the Chief and Cortana (and others in the story I presume) who know that the Halos do not lead to life but lead to death. In many ways the war against the Covenant is not only a war against them, but also to save them from the inevitable death that results from the covenant they follow. I hope this clears up my intentions, and thanks to you and the others for welcoming me to the forum (and hopefully the Clan sometime soon).
Gotcha. That is a very interesting way to look at it.
that just leaves us with Chief=Jesus. But wheres the sacrifice?
Now if the chief sacrifices himself at the end of Halo 3. Than that seems kinda weird as it is at the END of the story. With Christ's sacrifice basically being the BEGINNING of Christianity. (I know christianity is the fufillment of Judaism, but it is basically the beginning of the new covenant.)
And also the Chief would have to sacrifice himself "so that there would be life." because without it there is no hope.
It would only make sense that along with firing the rings from the Ark, you could also enter the same Dyson sphere that all portals would leed to across the galaxy.
QUOTE(Blamo @ Apr 28 2007, 05:52 PM)
On the First level of Halo 2, Lord Hood mentions that the fleet that took down Reach was fifty times the size of the one attacking Earth.
Yeah, the Ark is supposed to be like the ark that Noa boarded to escape the Flood. So it is a portal to The dyson sphere. I think.
If the chief does enter a portal to the Dyson Sphere in Halo 3. I dont think he will run into the others during the game. They will leave that to the books.
I forget the dimensions but the Dyson Sphere is supposed to be HUGE
QUOTE(mattacus @ Apr 27 2007, 05:02 PM)
I was talking with my wife about the Christ-MC connection. And I noted to her that it didn't work completely, because during his mortal ministry, Christ was the Sacrificial Lamb. He doesn't take on the Lion of the Tribe of Judah role until post Resurrection. At which point Amanda says, what about the beginning of the first game, "Sorry for the quick thaw, Master Chief." He's been in stasis in a box that looks very much like a coffin.
Not only did she quote it verbatim, but she hit on a point: MC has already risen from the grave, as it were. Bungie has moved the Christ Figure motif beyond the old and busted version that all of Western Literature has been employing for centuries, and gone straight to the Ass-Kicking Resurrected side of the story that other tales don't ever mention.
It's actually quite revolutionary. The Arbiter, also, has already been crucified (see the scene where he is stripped and tortured) and returned in a different state. So, technically, to fulfill the motif, neither needs to die. Just Cortana. She's bat-shit insane.
I always thought that "sorry for the quick thaw" meant she pulled him out of Cryo sleep to quickly. in the books they enter cryo everytime they travel for a while.
But I could see the symbolism. And yes if that is how Bungie is aiming, we did definitely skip to the ruthless post ressurrection Christ with Master Chief. And maybe is first firing of the rings was his sacrifice
Good point Mattacus
Edited by NJ x Falk0r, 28 April 2007 - 02:10 PM.