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Nightshade

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In Topic: Star Wars VIII The Last Jedi

24 December 2017 - 04:35 PM

Also, somebody explain this to me. Am I dumb, or was Finn and Rose's entire arc completely pointless and only made things worse for the rebels? If purple hair would have just told everyone they were going to head to the base planet instead of being cagey the whole time, Poe would've never sent them away and never picked up Benicio del Toro, who promptly ratted out the escape shuttles. Why did that whole plan have to stay a secret?

So, I've seen this critique fielded a lot and here's my take on it at least. Please keep in mind that I've only seen the movie once, so there's a high probability that I've missed or forgotten something about this particular arc.

 

Regarding Rose and Finn's trip, I don't think it was inherently pointless as at least as far as the characters knew, it was one of the only options they had to get out of a "no-win scenario". We as the audience later learn that Laura Dern's plan had a point outside of "I dunno lets just keep going till we run out of fuel lol" and this is around the same time that Finn et al. do too. So while their plan ultimately failed, they were doing something they likely knew wouldn't succeed, failed, but were saved by the overarching plan they weren't aware of.

 

This plan is yet another explanation of Poe's character flaw: immaturity. He lacks trust and is unwilling to put his life in the hands of someone else who, as we hear him mention briefly, has some level of significant experience (when they announce she's taking over he talks about something she did.) And due to this he puts Finn and Rose in danger because it's a plan he knows rather than one he doesn't.

 

Now, I won't disagree with you that Laura Dern should have told Poe and all the Rebels her plan. I could also tell you a whole bunch of made up, editorialized reasons like she thought people might defect to save themselves, maybe thought there were spies on board, maybe just hated Poe, etc. to justify it. But at the end of the day it really isn't covered well and while I have my thematic interpretation of it, I fully understand why people have gripes with it.


In Topic: Star Wars VIII The Last Jedi

21 December 2017 - 10:06 PM

Another Rian Johnson reaction: Link

 

But seriously, Van, I'm curious. Did you read a lot of the extended universe? I'm curious if the people who spent a bunch of time with that stuff have had a more negative opinion of the film than others.


In Topic: Movies

21 December 2017 - 10:35 AM

Yep, it's on my list, but Star Wars has rendered my local multiplex unvisitable during the holiday prestige season the past 2 years...  "Oh, cool, you're showing Moonlight?  Well, I can't go see it here because you have Rogue One on 4 screens and the 2000 hipsters who thought they were being edgy by waiting three weeks to see it has made visiting the theater a hassle."

 

Yeah, get off my lawn fuckos.

1) Open an Alamo Drafthouse

2) There is no step two

3) Profit


In Topic: Movies

19 December 2017 - 04:01 PM

Also, go see "Three Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri" because that movie is a great emotional rollercoaster. 


In Topic: Star Wars VIII The Last Jedi

19 December 2017 - 03:42 PM

What was weird about it? 

 

This is like the "one thing" that is a nitpick that I just don't get.  It's a 3 minute sequence where Luke goes and gets milk from a "sea cow" (my term), does this really cool jump over an expanse just to do some spear fishing.  Honestly, I think it just goes with the whole "You're expecting 'LUKE SKYWALKER' to be doing some really cool shit on this island, aren't you?  Well, surprise!"  He is on a small island in the middle of the sea.  Don't you wonder how he gets food and drink? 

 

And it works!

 

And it leads to the one joke that I think is actually in place and works.  (I did not care for the Poe/Hux stuff - the comedy should be the province of the droids - and ESB Yoda.  BB-8 plugging the holes being a prime example) The "That pretty much is nowhere" response.

Let me elaborate because I didn't do a good job the first time. I don't have a problem with the other routine parts like the fishing, I have a problem with the milking in particular. Now, I'm no prude, but when you show me some 10-foot version of this fucker:

 

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Who Rian Johnson thought was important enough to have look in the camera while audibly groaning several times while getting milked by Luke (which conveniently has it's udder located in it's crotch even as a bipedal creature) who proceeds to drink it hot from the tap and get some in his beard. I'm gonna call it a little weird.

We can debate the semantics about why this was done, but shit felt super weird. And I don't feel like it was necessary to show that he wasn't starving to death on the island given the whole he's alive part. Which is why I said it felt sort of like they were aping Yoda and just making him weird because, well, Yoda was weird. I get that it's grounding as a major thematic part of the film is understanding that Luke's status as a Jedi is largely a legend. But it still felt weird and I personally felt like in my theater experience people laughed more at the implied sexual humor of it rather than the weirdness of it.


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