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#21 CandyKid

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 03:48 PM

Okay, I got an email on it, because i signed up for their club thing, and I'm extremely interested in that computer, so when the 9000 come out, can you customize it and swap what you have in their for the new GPU?

The Dell XPS 630 finally shows that you can get a gaming performance system for under $2,000. Heck, this shows that under $1,500 is the sweet spot for the frugal high-end gamer. Sure, you could build it yourself for less, but then you'd have to assemble it and be your own tech support. That's a lot of time and effort for a savings of maybe $150 to $200. At those rates, you may be better off spending a couple hundred extra bucks for a system that is perfectly workable out of the box and is fully capable of being upgraded later if you want higher frame rates or want to play games with more detail. The XPS 630 is that system.


That's the last paragraph in the PCMAG review on it. I see that you can later upgrade it, and to me, it seems like that is the perfect PC. Read the whole review HERE.

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 04:25 PM

Case ( Xion Dazl Gaming Tower Case w/420W Power Supply ) Power Supply ( 800 Watt -- Power Supply Quad SLI Ready ) Processor ( [== Quad Core ==] AMD Phenom X4 9500 Quad-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology ) Processor Cooling ( [=== Silent ===] Extreme-Performance AMD CPU Cooling Fan System Kit Silent & Overclocking Proof = Maximum cooling efficiency for quietness and performance ) Motherboard ( Asus M2N-SLI NVIDIA nForce 560 SLI Chipset w/7.1 Sound, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, IEEE 1394, USB 2.0, Dual PCI-E MB ) Memory ( 2048MB [1024MB X2] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Corsair-Value or Major Brand ) Video Card ( [New !!!] 2x NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT 1GB w/DVI + TV Out Video ) Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA ) Hard Drive ( 1TB (500GB x2) HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] ) CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] 20X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD?R/?RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black ) Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard ) Speaker System ( 600W PMPO 3 PCS Super Bass Subwoofer Speaker System ) Network Card ( Intel Pro 10/100/1000 Network Card ) Monitor ( LCD Monitor [--- Special ---] 20.1" LCD 16:10 Wide WSXGA HD(HDCP) Monitor Support DVI Video up to 1080P(HDMI) ) Keyboard ( Logitech Deluxe Keyboard Black ) Mouse ( Logitech Optical Internet Mouse Black ) Flash Media Reader/Writer ( 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer Black ) Operation System ( Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access ....) 64-Bit ) Ok, this is what I currently have put together for a little over $1,600. Figured I'd get some opinions from a little more technically minded people. I don't want to find out this isn't going to work after I've bought it.
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Posted 29 February 2008 - 04:47 PM

Two questions. One, AMD? Two, 8600? That's it, really.

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 05:24 PM

AMD is all they had... This better: Video Card ( [NEW !!!] 2x NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT 512MB w/DVI + TV Out Video ) it raises the price to just over $1,700
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Posted 29 February 2008 - 05:34 PM

A single 8800GT 512MB is better than an SLI 9600GT setup, btw.

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 10:05 PM

Case ( [$15 OFF Mail-In Rebate] Nzxt Apollo Gaming Tower Case w/420W Power Supply Black ) Case Lighting ( None ) Power Supply ( 800 Watt -- Power Supply Quad SLI Ready ) Processor ( [=== Quad Core ===] Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q6600 (4x 2.4GHz/8MB L2 Cache/1066FSB) ) Free Software/Game ( [Free] iBUYPOWER Aegis Case - for your Games, Accessories, Disks, Manuals ... etc. --- $19.99 value ) Free Software/Game ( Free Game - [Scions of Fate] ) Processor Cooling ( [=== Silent ===] Extreme-Performance INTEL CPU Cooling Fan System Kit Silent & Overclocking Proof = Maximum cooling efficiency for quietness and performance ) Motherboard ( MSI P6N SLI-F nForce 650i SLI Chipset w/7.1 Sound, Gb LAN, S-ATA, USB 2.0, IEEE 1394, PCI-E MB ) Memory ( 2048MB [1024MB X2] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Corsair-Value or Major Brand ) Video Card ( [New !!!] NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT 1GB w/DVI + TV Out Video ) Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA ) Hard Drive ( 1TB (500GB x2) HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] ) 2nd Hard Drive ( None ) External Hard Drives [USB 2.0/eSATA] ( None ) CD/DVD Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] 20X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD?R/?RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black ) CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( None ) Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard ) Speaker System ( 600W PMPO 3 PCS Super Bass Subwoofer Speaker System ) Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) ) ok, here's another configuration... I'm not going with an 8800 Vid card, just to say Drew.
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#27 Drew

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 10:13 PM

I'm not going with an 8800 Vid card, just to say Drew.

=( Do you not plan on gaming with it?

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 10:35 PM

Not real seriously...I don't do heavy PC gaming.
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 12:08 AM

Get an Apple sucka. Kinetic help me out here.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 04:46 AM

If you aren't hardcore about gaming and you just want a worry free machine, just go with apple.

#31 Drew

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 07:09 AM

If you're not going to be gaming, Sharpe, the computer that you posted is more than okay. I'd recommend that over a Mac any day.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 09:34 AM

I think a $1700 machine is overkill if you aren't going to be doing much gaming with it.
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 11:12 AM

If you're not going to be gaming, Sharpe, the computer that you posted is more than okay. I'd recommend that over a Mac any day.


Why is that Drew? Do you prefer unstable operating systems? How about a greater rate of virus infestation? Difficult and counter-intuitive interfaces?

All joking aside, beside the fact that it's unfamiliar or more expensive, why would you prefer a Windows PC to a Mac? Have you ever owned a Mac?

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 11:22 AM

All joking aside, beside the fact that it's unfamiliar or more expensive, why would you prefer a Windows PC to a Mac? Have you ever owned a Mac?

Haven't owned and will never own, but worked on them for a year and grew to absolutely hate them. Overpriced garbage. If you really like getting ripped off, get a Mac. The arguments against PC's are now basically obsolete. XP has been running safe and stable for years now. You're going to run into tons of compatibility problems with Macs as well, and not just with games. You'd be much better in the long run with a PC, even if it isn't Windows. Get a Linux machine if you have to, but stay away from Macs.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 11:51 AM

Haven't owned and will never own, but worked on them for a year and grew to absolutely hate them. Overpriced garbage. If you really like getting ripped off, get a Mac. The arguments against PC's are now basically obsolete. XP has been running safe and stable for years now. You're going to run into tons of compatibility problems with Macs as well, and not just with games. You'd be much better in the long run with a PC, even if it isn't Windows. Get a Linux machine if you have to, but stay away from Macs.

That's the most absurd thing I've heard in a long time. I used macs all through school, and that was on os9 and they're great machines. OSX is even better and is much more user friendly than any PC.

I couldn't believe it when I went to a mac store and they showed me how to install an app like Firefox. You download the file, move it into your Applications folder and that's it! It's like running a stand along executable file each time. I don't think I've seen an installation that easy, and about 90% of apps install the same exact way.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 01:25 PM

Haven't owned and will never own, but worked on them for a year and grew to absolutely hate them.


LOL. Drew, if you only work with the broken ones, it's entirely possible that you might think they're all broken. That goes for any repair service employee, regardless of product. I own a Mac, and pretty much everyone in my family owns macs. The only person who ever has computer trouble is my wife (who runs the phenomenally unstable Windows XP (unstable compared to OS X)). Even my father who is 70 years old and completely computer illiterate uses his Mac daily on the road without a hitch. He even runs Parallels and boots up XP when he absolutely has to to run some trucking program to calculate mileage on a long haul.

Drew, try buying a Mac, or borrowing one from a friend. Not a broken one but one like everyone else has. After a few days, you'll realize how wrong you've been. Then you'll crap your pants and die.

Macs are overpriced because they can be. People who have used them realize that the less expensive alternative is so much like brain poison that they are willing to shell out the extra dough for an intuitive, streamlined, user-friendly experience that is not available on other platforms.

Bottom line, unless you've owned one, you really aren't qualified to talk shit about them. "[W]ork[ing] on them for a year" with no other experience immediately disqualifies you from presenting an unbiased opinion on the matter.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 03:30 PM

Actually, working on them required that I take a course to become certified with them, which entailed knowning them inside out, both from the hardware and software side. I'm not going to continue this argument because I think it's completely ridiculous, but calling PC's "brain poison" is a little overboard. It's great that you love a lavishly overpriced system that does less than anything else on the market, and I'm not going to argue with you about it.

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 01:44 AM

Seriously, if you want Mac OSX, buy a normal PC, and install Mac OSX on it, it's ALOT cheaper and the hardware is probably better. Man, it's like iPods all over again, everyone buying a certain mp3 player because of the brand label etched onto the back.

http://uneasysilence...an-ordinary-pc/

Also, you can obviously dual boot into XP.

Edit: Huh, apparently, if you get the right parts, you can run OSX natively, with PowerPC app support. Cool.

Edited by UHYVE, 04 March 2008 - 01:51 AM.


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Posted 26 May 2008 - 10:53 AM

Well my family is going to be ordering some computers and laptops soon, and I'm wondering: What OS should I get? XP or Vista? I wanna play high-end games on it and everything, and definitely spore. I know vista has its problems right now, but it has games that work better on it (I thought) and that are/will be exclusive to Vista. So what would you say? Should I stick with XP then upgrade once vista sp2 comes out, or just get vista right now?

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Posted 26 May 2008 - 11:20 AM

From what I hear, I think Vista is still bad for gaming. I don't think anything is Vista exclusive that can't be cracked. I think they got everything to work with XP. I could be wrong though.


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