Edited by JCTucker, 17 December 2010 - 07:30 AM.

Computers are for productivity and work.
#1
Posted 17 December 2010 - 07:29 AM

#2
Posted 17 December 2010 - 09:37 AM
I don't want to start a PC/Console war. There's plenty of PC Elitism over at GAF, but I want to point out fact from fiction.So, Drew, please explain how the PC is a viable gaming platform?
The same thing happens on 360, since it's also 4 year old hardware now. The 360 and PS3 have a graphics card equivalent to an Nvidia 7800 (it'll run a better than a PC equivalent due to hardware specific programming, and Cell makes the PS3 run even better if the programmers are good). PC gaming is easily a generation ahead of consoles right now, so anything that's built to run on modern video cards has to be scaled back a lot to run on 360 and PS3.I can't play anything more advanced than Command and Conquer 3 on my PC that I built myself 4.5 years ago for $850 in parts at cost to my employer without scaling down the settings.
EDIT: Previously, this paragraph made no sense.Why would I drop $500 on a new graphics card
There's only a handful of graphics cards that run $500, and those are top of the line cards. You can run just about anything except the high end games at max settings with a card worth $120 like the ATI 5770. For example, ME2 will run at 1080p, 8x AF, Max Quality, 60+ FPS on that card. To compare, the 360 doesn't output anything higher than 720p (we don't know what ME2 actually runs at, but I suspect it's this, and the 360 upscales to 1080p from 720p) and runs ME2 at a locked 30 fps. I don't know for certain the AF or Quality settings of ME2 on 360, but I highly doubt they're maxed.
MW2 runs at something like 540p at 60 fps during low loads on the 360. On average, it's more like 45-50. A decent PC could easily hit 1080p with 60 fps.
I just bought my GTX 460 for $200, and that'll run anything on the market at max settings except the really demanding stuff like Metro 2033, Crysis, and Bad Company 2. Haven't worked with Crysis and Bad Company 2 too much, but I only have to scale back Metro 2033 slightly.
ATI just released their high end 6000 series cards, and those are only in the $300 range.
There was a switch from AGP to PCI-e about the timeframe you built your computer, so you could be on either depending on the motherboard. Anything you buy new today will be PCI-e. Modern video card, even in SLI/CF, don't come anywhere close to the 16x speed modern PCI-e channels are built with unless you're sporting something like 4 separate video cards, so it's not going away for a while.if its compatible with my mobo, which if it's not, then there's another couple hundred... Then I have to reinstall my OS...
when I can buy a new console for half that price (if I need a new mobo) every 5 years?
It's a hobbyist thing. If you like building computer hardware like me, PC gaming is but one step away. Heck, I had my 9800 GT in my computer for over a year and didn't play anything besides Guild Wars. If you don't care about bolstering graphics, mods, dedicated servers on FPS's, the exclusives, or the control scheme, then there's no reason to put up with PC gaming's headaches and pocketbook drain.The only, and I do mean ONLY, advantage that PC games have is their pricing and distribution model. Which doesn't make a lick of difference if you don't have the latest and greatest hardware to run everything.
The whole pricing model argument is a joke. Sure, launch games cheaper and the Steam sales are absurdly awesome, but PC gaming hardware is inherently more expensive. You're expected to spend no less than $500 for a modern machine, but those will struggle with high end games.
Xbox Live: Niterider2004
PS3: Not used
Wii: Lol wut?
#3
Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:10 PM
#4
Posted 23 December 2010 - 06:31 AM
#5
Posted 23 December 2010 - 03:00 PM
Xbox Live: Niterider2004
PS3: Not used
Wii: Lol wut?
#6
Posted 23 December 2010 - 03:17 PM
Edited by Drew, 23 December 2010 - 03:18 PM.
#7
Posted 23 December 2010 - 04:43 PM
You had to push that button, didn't you? Where did I put my .44?Dedicated servers = less lag.
As long as the game doesn't have terrible netcode, it is always better than using P2P. Not only that, but it removes host advantage from the equation and places everyone on an even playing field. Network exploiters can no longer exploit when playing on a dedicated server, because then the only people they hurt are themselves.
In theory, all that is true. Only in theory, the end result (due to user stupidity for the most part), is that games are just as laggy or worse.
Xbox Live: Niterider2004
PS3: Not used
Wii: Lol wut?
#8
Posted 20 September 2011 - 04:19 AM
#9
Posted 20 September 2011 - 03:16 PM
Xbox Live: Niterider2004
PS3: Not used
Wii: Lol wut?
#10
Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:26 PM
#11
Posted 25 November 2011 - 04:51 PM
#12
Posted 26 November 2011 - 02:57 AM
MASTER RACEFinally went ahead and made the purchase. Specs changed slightly.
I7 2600
Asus socket 1155 motherboard
Nvidia GeForce GTX560Ti (1.25GB)
2x 500GB SATA drvies (might setup RAID 0)
700W Power Supply
8GB DDR3
I also bought a new 20in LED monitor. Stoked.
When you install Steam post your ID.
Edited by Drew, 26 November 2011 - 02:57 AM.
#13
Posted 26 November 2011 - 06:22 AM
Xbox Live: Niterider2004
PS3: Not used
Wii: Lol wut?
#14
Posted 26 November 2011 - 09:40 AM
Nvidia GeForce GTX560Ti (1.25GB)
Damn.
#15
Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:04 PM
MASTER RACE
When you install Steam post your ID.
Already have an account, though it's been so long since I've actually used it. I'm fairly sure my ID is defsoldout.
#16
Posted 28 November 2011 - 01:17 PM
Looks like it was before community pages even existed.Already have an account, though it's been so long since I've actually used it. I'm fairly sure my ID is defsoldout.

#17
Posted 28 November 2011 - 10:27 PM
Looks like it was before community pages even existed.
Done and done.
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